sakoorah:

im not super upset about lacrosse being traded in for cross country but it seems unnecessary??
like yeah lacrosse didn’t add anything to the story but its just lACROSSE IS SO TEEN WOLF
what is the point of making them do cross country

ladyw1nter:

(and yet: what if knowledge were delicious?): angrymanagement: whatwouldyouhavemedo: my last bitter scott stan post…

obsessionisaperfume:

lierdumoa:

angrymanagement:

whatwouldyouhavemedo:

my last bitter scott stan post of the day

why does no one identify with scott? you never struggled with class in high school? you never juggled your part time job with doing homework? you never had to cope with a parent working long hours to pay the bills? your family never worried about money? you never had to deal with your parents getting a divorce? you never fell head over heels for your first girlfriend? you never wanted to play sport or be in a club and be recognized for it?

never ever?

but the dude whose family all died in a house fire and has been a werewolf since birth, he’s totally the relatable one?

???

#if you wonder why people think this fandom is racist #it’s probably ‘cause the character that is browner than most #is the character you seem to have the most trouble identifying with #sometimes it works out that way #and sometimes you’re just racist 

FFS.

you know what? no. no, I don’t really relate with Scott. Sorry. I was more of a Lydia, more of a Stiles - I was smart, I didn’t struggle very often, I wanted those grades and they were more important to me than lacrosse or a girlfriend or anything else I could think of. Scott’s decision are, honestly, baffling to me. His priorities are not my priorities. And that’s okay! But I don’t identify with him!

And you know what? Yeah, my family worried about money because there were four kids, and we’re lower middle class now. I remember being on WIC when we were younger, and my mother putting the rest of the groceries on our credit card, paying them off month by month, always just a little behind. And I was the oldest of those four kids, spread out by thirteen years, which meant that not only was I the de facto babysitter, but when my mother went back to work after my youngest brother, it felt like I had a kid. We still joke that I changed more of his diapers than she did. Scott and Stiles and maybe the other betas might have single parents, or none, but so far no one on the show has shown a home life like mine was. Hell, the person who’s family life might be closest to mine was Laura, and she’s dead. (As an aside, an AWFUL lot of single children on this show, eh?)

I didn’t have a girlfriend in high school, or a boyfriend. I had a stalker, and a restraining order, so I guess on that note I can kind of identify with Allison and her experience with Matt. Derek isn’t the personally relatable one; professionally, he’s a traumatized kid, and I see a lot of those - Isaac too. Erica isn’t relatable either; she’s a fantasy, the person I wish I could have been in high school. Danny’s a fantasy too - I had a confrontation about my sexuality in high school and believe-you-fucking-me, it didn’t got down the way it seems to in Beacon Hills. Stiles might be understood as the wisecracking me, Lydia the smarter me, and her and Allison are so understandable in the demands of family, and what society expects of girls, and how and why and when and if they fulfill those expectations. But no, I don’t particularly identify with Scott. If we’re being really truthful, I don’t ‘identify’ with a lot of characters on the show, to be honest - where’s the fat queer girl who spends her time only at school or studying at home while watching her siblings and cooking dinner and cleaning the house? Shit, I could never belong in Beacon Hills; not enough free time for supernatural shenanigans. 

Look, identifying or not identifying with a character isn’t the be-all, end-all to liking the character, or thinking they’re a good person: I freely admit that Scott is nicer than me - I’m sarcastic, and socially awkward, and kind of a bitch. He’s more outgoing. He brings out the good in people in a way that I don’t. There’s a lot to be said about racism and POC on Teen Wolf, but I am tired of this ‘if you don’t like scott you’re RACIST!!!” because you know what? conversely, liking Scott McCall doesn’t make a person not racist, can we sit the fuck down. I am not trying to rain on the Scott McCall is Awesome parade, okay, but you don’t get to decide who I identify with, or who I like, and I am really sick of this fandom policing that.

Okay, yes to all points made by roseandthebeast, and I also want to direct everyone over to [this post] that I think better clarifies the flaws in the initial poster’s argument.

But mainly I just want to hang my head and laugh. In an attempt to list reasons why fans should relate to Scott, this fan has in fact listed all the reasons why I don’t relate to Scott. Virtually the only thing I have in common with Scott is the fact that I am a POC. In fact, Scott is visibly more white-looking than I am.

Oh, the irony.

Oddly enough, the Teen Wolf character I identify with most is Peter. I can read people really well. I have a twisted sense of humor. I’m smart enough that it gave me a superiority complex when I was growing up. My upbringing was dysfunctional and emotionally abusive and I developed coping/defense mechanisms that aid me in being emotionally detached and (if necessary) manipulative. I know what it’s like to have the kind of psychological damage that makes a person not trust their own moral compass.

I’ve also written characterization/race meta on BBC’s Sherlock vs Elementary that is somewhat relevant to this discussion.

I think this entire discussion about why nobody likes Scott enough is missing an important angle, and it has to do with the part of lierdumoa’s reply that I have bolded.

The reason I focus on Derek and Jackson and Stiles more than I do on Scott is that Scott’s angst is all about NORMAL TEENAGE THNGS.  He has no deep emotional trauma, no angsty backstory, no ongoing problem that is threatening to break him.

And YES, I KNOW, all the issues with his dad are there, but the thing is, I’ve never gotten the sense that Scott was holding on to a lot of pain from that whole thing.  Scott mostly lets that kind of thing go and just lives his life without dwelling on the bad stuff or letting it cripple him.

Scott finds ways to be happy.  Scott is an adorable sweetie who doesn’t seem to have a mean bone in his body.  Scott is not fundamentally BROKEN by anything in his past, or by anything that’s going on now.  (Scott and Danny are actually the most well adjusted teenagers in the show.) 

I see this in pretty much every fandom I’ve been in: it’s that brokenness that a lot of people are drawn to when they watch a show, and the broken ones almost always get the most fic written about them.  They get the most discussion.  They get the most meta.

We identify with the broken ones because they’re struggling to cope with awful things, and not always coping well, but they’re functioning, they’re conquering their demons, they’re fighting themselves to get to okay .  That resonates with a lot of people, it reaches them on a very deep level, because many of us feel that way, too.

So, yeah.  The guy who’s lost almost everything he loves, the guy who thinks nobody can actually love the real him, the guy who’s terrified that he’s going to lose somebody else he loves because he’s not enough, are more relatable to me than the guy who can juggle all the things he’s got going on and not let it keep him down.

Reblog for truth and also for the massive lols re:the fact that the original post in that, yes, I am a POC and an immigrant, but all the things they listed for Scott does not, in fact, relate to my personal experience whatsoever.

But yes, the strange proudness/isolation/awkwardness of being always ‘different’, the simultaneous knowledge of your heritage as a gift and as the very thing that damns you, your heritage being the source of your strengths and your weaknesses, that push-pull of arrogance and insecurity, THAT I identify with.

I appreciate Scott’s emotional resilience and buoyancy, don’t get me wrong, but it’s something I tend to approach from the outside rather than something I am intimately familiar with. 

(tho I suppose in some way I can relate to money issues but, truth to tell, when we arrived in America when I was 3, the change from ‘crippling poverty’ to ‘making enough to get by’ meant that I, personally, have never felt a financial ‘hardship’. I mean hell, meals that I don’t have to cram into my mouth for fear of it getting taken from me and non-rotting fruit! Success! I saw my parents for more than once every two weeks/month, strangeness!)

comeonsupergirl:

“Stiles’ 15 year plan to make Lydia fall in love with him is ‘not necessarily’ over.”